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A to Z claim refunds customer for $1328 with a signature, delivered to the correct address. Help

We shipped an order 701-2227369-7885849 to a customer. The Purolator tracking shows it was delivered to the correct address, the Purolator GPS shows it was delivered to the correct address and we have a signature.

Customer emails a to z and claims he did not get it and doesn't know who signed for it and they refund his purchase. We appeal and apparently a signature is not good enough.

Now all a customer has to do is tell the courier a different name when signing for it and they get the product for free.

All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?

@Ricardo_Amazon@Sunnie_Amazon

Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.

Jason

Konquer Motorcycles

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A to Z claim refunds customer for $1328 with a signature, delivered to the correct address. Help

We shipped an order 701-2227369-7885849 to a customer. The Purolator tracking shows it was delivered to the correct address, the Purolator GPS shows it was delivered to the correct address and we have a signature.

Customer emails a to z and claims he did not get it and doesn't know who signed for it and they refund his purchase. We appeal and apparently a signature is not good enough.

Now all a customer has to do is tell the courier a different name when signing for it and they get the product for free.

All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?

@Ricardo_Amazon@Sunnie_Amazon

Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.

Jason

Konquer Motorcycles

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All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?
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Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.
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If Purolator gave the package to someone else other than the addressee at the wrong address, and the signature proves that, then you go after Purolator and file an insurance claim for the shipment and open up an investigation with Purolator.

They then contact the customer, customer tells Purolator the item hasn't been received, and then Purolator will refund you.

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Couriers do not require the person on the label to sign for it but only require a house hold member. This opens a new avenue for fraud.
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That is why as part of the investigation, the courier contacts the customer.

It's not Amazon's fault if Purolator misdelivered the package, why should Amazon pay out for Purolator's issue?

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You reference Purolator miss delivering it but there is nothing that proves or shows that.
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I have had customers sign affidavits from the courier for courier insurance claims that declare under oath that the customer is not making a false declaration of delivery. Usually when it gets to that point, the scammer customer backs off. If they sign it, then they don't have the package and insurance pays out.

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We placed an order for office suppliers a while ago through Amazon. It was a local delivery and delivered by Amazon driver. The package was left outside our warehouse door (delivery was after hours) and the driver faked the signature. Funny the double standards you come across. You use a legitimate courier company, get a signature but are out $1,300.00 because Amazon just sides with the customer. We have a delivery from an Amazon FBA driver and Amazon scams us.

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Only if he had insurance for up 1328 which would boost the shipping cost significantly.
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We always insure our FBM shipments at product cost, not retail sales price, so then we get at least our cost plus shipping back.

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I am not sure how expensive it becomes to insure products that have a higher value than 100-150$
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$2.50 per $100.00 more than default

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If the item has a selling price of 1328$, maybe COGS are around 400-700$
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If $7.50 to $15.00 extra on shipping for $400-$700 worth of insurance makes or breaks you making profit on a $1328 item, you should rethink your business here on Amazon.

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same issue, I have a customer purchase a dozens hats from my store every time. right after the package has been delivered. this buyer file az claim the second day by saying he didn't received it. then he get refund immediately .

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The only way to avoid this is FBA

Having them pick up at post office will deture them from doing this, but signature wont cover you. Amazon customers always get the way. Its a L sellers must be willing to take.

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A to Z claim refunds customer for $1328 with a signature, delivered to the correct address. Help

We shipped an order 701-2227369-7885849 to a customer. The Purolator tracking shows it was delivered to the correct address, the Purolator GPS shows it was delivered to the correct address and we have a signature.

Customer emails a to z and claims he did not get it and doesn't know who signed for it and they refund his purchase. We appeal and apparently a signature is not good enough.

Now all a customer has to do is tell the courier a different name when signing for it and they get the product for free.

All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?

@Ricardo_Amazon@Sunnie_Amazon

Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.

Jason

Konquer Motorcycles

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A to Z claim refunds customer for $1328 with a signature, delivered to the correct address. Help

We shipped an order 701-2227369-7885849 to a customer. The Purolator tracking shows it was delivered to the correct address, the Purolator GPS shows it was delivered to the correct address and we have a signature.

Customer emails a to z and claims he did not get it and doesn't know who signed for it and they refund his purchase. We appeal and apparently a signature is not good enough.

Now all a customer has to do is tell the courier a different name when signing for it and they get the product for free.

All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?

@Ricardo_Amazon@Sunnie_Amazon

Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.

Jason

Konquer Motorcycles

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A to Z claim refunds customer for $1328 with a signature, delivered to the correct address. Help

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We shipped an order 701-2227369-7885849 to a customer. The Purolator tracking shows it was delivered to the correct address, the Purolator GPS shows it was delivered to the correct address and we have a signature.

Customer emails a to z and claims he did not get it and doesn't know who signed for it and they refund his purchase. We appeal and apparently a signature is not good enough.

Now all a customer has to do is tell the courier a different name when signing for it and they get the product for free.

All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?

@Ricardo_Amazon@Sunnie_Amazon

Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.

Jason

Konquer Motorcycles

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All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?
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Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.
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If Purolator gave the package to someone else other than the addressee at the wrong address, and the signature proves that, then you go after Purolator and file an insurance claim for the shipment and open up an investigation with Purolator.

They then contact the customer, customer tells Purolator the item hasn't been received, and then Purolator will refund you.

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Couriers do not require the person on the label to sign for it but only require a house hold member. This opens a new avenue for fraud.
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That is why as part of the investigation, the courier contacts the customer.

It's not Amazon's fault if Purolator misdelivered the package, why should Amazon pay out for Purolator's issue?

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Seller_I243tlANJDFaQ
You reference Purolator miss delivering it but there is nothing that proves or shows that.
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I have had customers sign affidavits from the courier for courier insurance claims that declare under oath that the customer is not making a false declaration of delivery. Usually when it gets to that point, the scammer customer backs off. If they sign it, then they don't have the package and insurance pays out.

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We placed an order for office suppliers a while ago through Amazon. It was a local delivery and delivered by Amazon driver. The package was left outside our warehouse door (delivery was after hours) and the driver faked the signature. Funny the double standards you come across. You use a legitimate courier company, get a signature but are out $1,300.00 because Amazon just sides with the customer. We have a delivery from an Amazon FBA driver and Amazon scams us.

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Only if he had insurance for up 1328 which would boost the shipping cost significantly.
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We always insure our FBM shipments at product cost, not retail sales price, so then we get at least our cost plus shipping back.

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I am not sure how expensive it becomes to insure products that have a higher value than 100-150$
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$2.50 per $100.00 more than default

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Seller_xJx7vH6fvZFD9
If the item has a selling price of 1328$, maybe COGS are around 400-700$
View post

If $7.50 to $15.00 extra on shipping for $400-$700 worth of insurance makes or breaks you making profit on a $1328 item, you should rethink your business here on Amazon.

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Seller_K25AqcbMgULh8

same issue, I have a customer purchase a dozens hats from my store every time. right after the package has been delivered. this buyer file az claim the second day by saying he didn't received it. then he get refund immediately .

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Seller_cuqbWem1a7BaZ

The only way to avoid this is FBA

Having them pick up at post office will deture them from doing this, but signature wont cover you. Amazon customers always get the way. Its a L sellers must be willing to take.

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All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?
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Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.
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If Purolator gave the package to someone else other than the addressee at the wrong address, and the signature proves that, then you go after Purolator and file an insurance claim for the shipment and open up an investigation with Purolator.

They then contact the customer, customer tells Purolator the item hasn't been received, and then Purolator will refund you.

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All couriers allow any one from the house hold to sign for a package, how is this fair and how can we protect our selves from these loses?
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Please anyone help as we can not take looses of this size if Amazon does not have sellers backs.
View post

If Purolator gave the package to someone else other than the addressee at the wrong address, and the signature proves that, then you go after Purolator and file an insurance claim for the shipment and open up an investigation with Purolator.

They then contact the customer, customer tells Purolator the item hasn't been received, and then Purolator will refund you.

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Couriers do not require the person on the label to sign for it but only require a house hold member. This opens a new avenue for fraud.
View post

That is why as part of the investigation, the courier contacts the customer.

It's not Amazon's fault if Purolator misdelivered the package, why should Amazon pay out for Purolator's issue?

114
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Couriers do not require the person on the label to sign for it but only require a house hold member. This opens a new avenue for fraud.
View post

That is why as part of the investigation, the courier contacts the customer.

It's not Amazon's fault if Purolator misdelivered the package, why should Amazon pay out for Purolator's issue?

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You reference Purolator miss delivering it but there is nothing that proves or shows that.
View post

I have had customers sign affidavits from the courier for courier insurance claims that declare under oath that the customer is not making a false declaration of delivery. Usually when it gets to that point, the scammer customer backs off. If they sign it, then they don't have the package and insurance pays out.

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Seller_I243tlANJDFaQ
You reference Purolator miss delivering it but there is nothing that proves or shows that.
View post

I have had customers sign affidavits from the courier for courier insurance claims that declare under oath that the customer is not making a false declaration of delivery. Usually when it gets to that point, the scammer customer backs off. If they sign it, then they don't have the package and insurance pays out.

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Seller_VXA2aspMqpZ4o

We placed an order for office suppliers a while ago through Amazon. It was a local delivery and delivered by Amazon driver. The package was left outside our warehouse door (delivery was after hours) and the driver faked the signature. Funny the double standards you come across. You use a legitimate courier company, get a signature but are out $1,300.00 because Amazon just sides with the customer. We have a delivery from an Amazon FBA driver and Amazon scams us.

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Seller_VXA2aspMqpZ4o

We placed an order for office suppliers a while ago through Amazon. It was a local delivery and delivered by Amazon driver. The package was left outside our warehouse door (delivery was after hours) and the driver faked the signature. Funny the double standards you come across. You use a legitimate courier company, get a signature but are out $1,300.00 because Amazon just sides with the customer. We have a delivery from an Amazon FBA driver and Amazon scams us.

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Only if he had insurance for up 1328 which would boost the shipping cost significantly.
View post

We always insure our FBM shipments at product cost, not retail sales price, so then we get at least our cost plus shipping back.

23
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Seller_xJx7vH6fvZFD9
Only if he had insurance for up 1328 which would boost the shipping cost significantly.
View post

We always insure our FBM shipments at product cost, not retail sales price, so then we get at least our cost plus shipping back.

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I am not sure how expensive it becomes to insure products that have a higher value than 100-150$
View post

$2.50 per $100.00 more than default

user profile
Seller_xJx7vH6fvZFD9
If the item has a selling price of 1328$, maybe COGS are around 400-700$
View post

If $7.50 to $15.00 extra on shipping for $400-$700 worth of insurance makes or breaks you making profit on a $1328 item, you should rethink your business here on Amazon.

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Seller_xJx7vH6fvZFD9
I am not sure how expensive it becomes to insure products that have a higher value than 100-150$
View post

$2.50 per $100.00 more than default

user profile
Seller_xJx7vH6fvZFD9
If the item has a selling price of 1328$, maybe COGS are around 400-700$
View post

If $7.50 to $15.00 extra on shipping for $400-$700 worth of insurance makes or breaks you making profit on a $1328 item, you should rethink your business here on Amazon.

211
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user profile
Seller_K25AqcbMgULh8

same issue, I have a customer purchase a dozens hats from my store every time. right after the package has been delivered. this buyer file az claim the second day by saying he didn't received it. then he get refund immediately .

20
user profile
Seller_K25AqcbMgULh8

same issue, I have a customer purchase a dozens hats from my store every time. right after the package has been delivered. this buyer file az claim the second day by saying he didn't received it. then he get refund immediately .

20
Reply
user profile
Seller_cuqbWem1a7BaZ

The only way to avoid this is FBA

Having them pick up at post office will deture them from doing this, but signature wont cover you. Amazon customers always get the way. Its a L sellers must be willing to take.

00
user profile
Seller_cuqbWem1a7BaZ

The only way to avoid this is FBA

Having them pick up at post office will deture them from doing this, but signature wont cover you. Amazon customers always get the way. Its a L sellers must be willing to take.

00
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