WIll amazon ever sell shipping labels to canadian sellers?
I'm just wondering if amazon canada will ever follow the US' footsteps of selling shipping labels to sellers to utilize on FBM shipments? It would be such a huge help.
25 replies
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
No, Canada Post and UPS don't want to cut their rates to what Amazon wants them to.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
But right now, you and all the other Canadian FBM sellers are paying higher rates than Amazon, and Canada Post and UPS knows that. So there is literally no benefit for them to sign a contract with Amazon to force cheaper rates for their FBM sellers, it would cost them money and the parcel volume would be the same or more.
UPS already has so much parcel volume they've started delivering to Residential addresses on long weekends and Saturdays in Canadian metro areas to free up warehouse space.
Seller_aKjpvLf9GNkXt
Don't forget that marketplace sellers are officially called "competitors" at Amazon. They will not do anything that could help marketplace sellers becoming an even stronger competition.
Besides that, Amazon Canada has always been the stepchild. We sellers can feel this every day that Amazon is not taking us serious.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
Yes, the FBM volumes would be the same, except UPS would be earning less money for the same FBM parcel volumes than they already do.
They are, but we actually have no issues doing FBM for dangerous goods. It usually only works out to $1-3 a unit more to ship ourselves than FBA, and then our cash turnover is faster doing FBM than FBA for dangerous goods, since sometimes it takes 3-6 weeks to get a FBA Hazmat shipment checked in and available for sale fully.
Seller_y7W9ccUlauftE
You missed the point, Amazon DELIVERS to the Canada Post sorting plants -- amazon get an additional discount for doing that, since "free" pickup costs Canada Post money.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
Yup, Amazon and all the others like chitchats do presort. Saves a lotta money
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
So what, there just gonna be a line up of cars waiting to drop off at one of Canada Post's sorting facilities? And the FBM seller will have presorted by region code? What kind of volumes are you doing that Canada Post would grant you presort access to warehouse facility? This isn't about dropping off at your local post office, this is Amazon already sorting their packages for different regions so Canada post doesn't have to and it bypasses the sortation process.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
UPS is already cheaper than Canada Post for most urban areas on a business account. UPS doesn't want to nor has the ability to deliver to remote areas.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
That's what I said above. The parcel volumes would be the same as they are now for the FBM shipments, but both UPS and CP would take a pay cut and make less money doing the same volume, so they don't want it.
UPS already wants out of the inbound partnered shipping to FBA warehouses in Canada.
WIll amazon ever sell shipping labels to canadian sellers?
I'm just wondering if amazon canada will ever follow the US' footsteps of selling shipping labels to sellers to utilize on FBM shipments? It would be such a huge help.
WIll amazon ever sell shipping labels to canadian sellers?
I'm just wondering if amazon canada will ever follow the US' footsteps of selling shipping labels to sellers to utilize on FBM shipments? It would be such a huge help.
25 replies
25 replies
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
No, Canada Post and UPS don't want to cut their rates to what Amazon wants them to.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
But right now, you and all the other Canadian FBM sellers are paying higher rates than Amazon, and Canada Post and UPS knows that. So there is literally no benefit for them to sign a contract with Amazon to force cheaper rates for their FBM sellers, it would cost them money and the parcel volume would be the same or more.
UPS already has so much parcel volume they've started delivering to Residential addresses on long weekends and Saturdays in Canadian metro areas to free up warehouse space.
Seller_aKjpvLf9GNkXt
Don't forget that marketplace sellers are officially called "competitors" at Amazon. They will not do anything that could help marketplace sellers becoming an even stronger competition.
Besides that, Amazon Canada has always been the stepchild. We sellers can feel this every day that Amazon is not taking us serious.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
Yes, the FBM volumes would be the same, except UPS would be earning less money for the same FBM parcel volumes than they already do.
They are, but we actually have no issues doing FBM for dangerous goods. It usually only works out to $1-3 a unit more to ship ourselves than FBA, and then our cash turnover is faster doing FBM than FBA for dangerous goods, since sometimes it takes 3-6 weeks to get a FBA Hazmat shipment checked in and available for sale fully.
Seller_y7W9ccUlauftE
You missed the point, Amazon DELIVERS to the Canada Post sorting plants -- amazon get an additional discount for doing that, since "free" pickup costs Canada Post money.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
Yup, Amazon and all the others like chitchats do presort. Saves a lotta money
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
So what, there just gonna be a line up of cars waiting to drop off at one of Canada Post's sorting facilities? And the FBM seller will have presorted by region code? What kind of volumes are you doing that Canada Post would grant you presort access to warehouse facility? This isn't about dropping off at your local post office, this is Amazon already sorting their packages for different regions so Canada post doesn't have to and it bypasses the sortation process.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
UPS is already cheaper than Canada Post for most urban areas on a business account. UPS doesn't want to nor has the ability to deliver to remote areas.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
That's what I said above. The parcel volumes would be the same as they are now for the FBM shipments, but both UPS and CP would take a pay cut and make less money doing the same volume, so they don't want it.
UPS already wants out of the inbound partnered shipping to FBA warehouses in Canada.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
No, Canada Post and UPS don't want to cut their rates to what Amazon wants them to.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
No, Canada Post and UPS don't want to cut their rates to what Amazon wants them to.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
But right now, you and all the other Canadian FBM sellers are paying higher rates than Amazon, and Canada Post and UPS knows that. So there is literally no benefit for them to sign a contract with Amazon to force cheaper rates for their FBM sellers, it would cost them money and the parcel volume would be the same or more.
UPS already has so much parcel volume they've started delivering to Residential addresses on long weekends and Saturdays in Canadian metro areas to free up warehouse space.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
But right now, you and all the other Canadian FBM sellers are paying higher rates than Amazon, and Canada Post and UPS knows that. So there is literally no benefit for them to sign a contract with Amazon to force cheaper rates for their FBM sellers, it would cost them money and the parcel volume would be the same or more.
UPS already has so much parcel volume they've started delivering to Residential addresses on long weekends and Saturdays in Canadian metro areas to free up warehouse space.
Seller_aKjpvLf9GNkXt
Don't forget that marketplace sellers are officially called "competitors" at Amazon. They will not do anything that could help marketplace sellers becoming an even stronger competition.
Besides that, Amazon Canada has always been the stepchild. We sellers can feel this every day that Amazon is not taking us serious.
Seller_aKjpvLf9GNkXt
Don't forget that marketplace sellers are officially called "competitors" at Amazon. They will not do anything that could help marketplace sellers becoming an even stronger competition.
Besides that, Amazon Canada has always been the stepchild. We sellers can feel this every day that Amazon is not taking us serious.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
Yes, the FBM volumes would be the same, except UPS would be earning less money for the same FBM parcel volumes than they already do.
They are, but we actually have no issues doing FBM for dangerous goods. It usually only works out to $1-3 a unit more to ship ourselves than FBA, and then our cash turnover is faster doing FBM than FBA for dangerous goods, since sometimes it takes 3-6 weeks to get a FBA Hazmat shipment checked in and available for sale fully.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
Yes, the FBM volumes would be the same, except UPS would be earning less money for the same FBM parcel volumes than they already do.
They are, but we actually have no issues doing FBM for dangerous goods. It usually only works out to $1-3 a unit more to ship ourselves than FBA, and then our cash turnover is faster doing FBM than FBA for dangerous goods, since sometimes it takes 3-6 weeks to get a FBA Hazmat shipment checked in and available for sale fully.
Seller_y7W9ccUlauftE
You missed the point, Amazon DELIVERS to the Canada Post sorting plants -- amazon get an additional discount for doing that, since "free" pickup costs Canada Post money.
Seller_y7W9ccUlauftE
You missed the point, Amazon DELIVERS to the Canada Post sorting plants -- amazon get an additional discount for doing that, since "free" pickup costs Canada Post money.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
Yup, Amazon and all the others like chitchats do presort. Saves a lotta money
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
Yup, Amazon and all the others like chitchats do presort. Saves a lotta money
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
So what, there just gonna be a line up of cars waiting to drop off at one of Canada Post's sorting facilities? And the FBM seller will have presorted by region code? What kind of volumes are you doing that Canada Post would grant you presort access to warehouse facility? This isn't about dropping off at your local post office, this is Amazon already sorting their packages for different regions so Canada post doesn't have to and it bypasses the sortation process.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
So what, there just gonna be a line up of cars waiting to drop off at one of Canada Post's sorting facilities? And the FBM seller will have presorted by region code? What kind of volumes are you doing that Canada Post would grant you presort access to warehouse facility? This isn't about dropping off at your local post office, this is Amazon already sorting their packages for different regions so Canada post doesn't have to and it bypasses the sortation process.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
UPS is already cheaper than Canada Post for most urban areas on a business account. UPS doesn't want to nor has the ability to deliver to remote areas.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
UPS is already cheaper than Canada Post for most urban areas on a business account. UPS doesn't want to nor has the ability to deliver to remote areas.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
That's what I said above. The parcel volumes would be the same as they are now for the FBM shipments, but both UPS and CP would take a pay cut and make less money doing the same volume, so they don't want it.
UPS already wants out of the inbound partnered shipping to FBA warehouses in Canada.
Seller_7LrAV0m5llaI7
That's what I said above. The parcel volumes would be the same as they are now for the FBM shipments, but both UPS and CP would take a pay cut and make less money doing the same volume, so they don't want it.
UPS already wants out of the inbound partnered shipping to FBA warehouses in Canada.
